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Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Agnostic Owns Atheist


I came across this video while browsing YouTube. An atheist, radio talk show host is interviewing agnostic, liberal scholar, Bart Ehrman when the subject of the existence of Jesus comes up. The host (who's name I don't have but his subtitle calls him, “the Infidel Guy”) makes a usual atheist claim that we really have no evidence that Jesus ever lived. He doesn't get the response he expected.

Ehrman answers, “I don't think there's any serious historian who doubts the existence of Jesus.” You can tell the Infidel Guy is taken aback and begins to challenge Ehrman but we quickly see he is way out of his league.

Infidel Guy first tries to say that there were many people identified as Jesus. Ehrman explained that there was only one Jesus but it was his belief that different “portraits” of Jesus rose in different parts of the Roman Empire. Hence, we have different gospels that emphasize different things. Infidel Guy next asserts that we don't really have any “hardcore” evidence for Jesus. Ehrman disagreed and rebutted by asking, “What hardcore evidence is there that Julius Caesar existed?”

The Infidel Guy entire argument consisted only of bald assertion after bald assertion. Each point he made was struck down by the historian. At one point, Erhman said to him, “If you say that historical evidence doesn't count, then I think you get into huge trouble because then how do you... I mean, why not just deny the holocaust. Or why not deny that Abraham Lincoln lived?” At another point, he makes the bold claim that “We have more evidence for Jesus than we have for almost anybody from his time period.”

Ehrman later goes on to affirm the historicity of Paul's writings – specifically his letter to the Galatians. He comments that he doesn't know a single historian who doubts Paul's authorship of Galatians. It's funny to hear. Ehrman, who reminds the host on at least 3 occasions that he's not a believer, sounds like a Christian apologist. He remains civil the entire time but I can detect a certain amount of frustration Ehrman has with Infidel Guy's empty assertions. I certainly can empathize with him.

The video is 7:19 long but I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Christians have been saying many of these same things for years. The historical writings handed down by contemporaries of Jesus are EVIDENCE about the things He said and did. Critics, though, are very arbitrary about which evidence they'll consider.



Monday, March 12, 2012

Pragmatism is No Substitute for the Truth

The failed philosophical assumptions behind atheism and secular science, I believe, will be its undoing. The irrational worldview of naturalism cannot stand up to scrutiny as I've discussed many times on my blog before. The more I discuss it with critics, the more irrational they become. I can't say I'm surprised at the lengths people go to justify a position that makes no sense because that's what irrational people do; but I am impressed by their persistence. They just won't let their failed argument go – even when they see the absurdity of their beliefs.

Several months back, I was speaking in another forum about the fundamental “tenet” behind science – methodological naturalism. As usual, I was asking for scientific evidence to support the belief that every phenomenon must have a natural explanation and was hearing the usual non-responses. In frustration, one poster (who seems to post under his real name so I won't give it here) replied with the following quote:

I'll be brief. Science works. That's all the justification it needs. ¶Oh, and it's a great shame to see an obviously intelligent man going to such torturous lengths to try and support the unsupportable.

By “intelligent man” I assume he meant me but I couldn't be sure because his statement seems to work equally well when applied to himself. I'm also a little confused about his comment that “science works.” My question wasn't about science but about the naturalistic presuppositions that underlie science. I believe he meant to say, “[the methodological naturalism that underlies] science works. That's all the justification it needs.”

Anyway, this has become a typical response to my criticism of methodological naturalism. “Naturalism works so it's fine.” The technical term for this attitude is “pragmatism.” Basically, in pragmatism, practicality is used to measure the “rightness” of something. If something works, it is accepted as “correct.” The danger is that, even if something seems to work, it can still be very wrong.

When my son was younger, he was a little afraid of the dark. He would always sleep with the lights on. Perhaps in his young mind, turning on the lights kept the monsters away. Since no monster ever came into his room when the lights were on, then keeping the lights on to scare away the monsters worked. What other justification do we need?!

That was basically the reply I made to the evo critic. In typical, irrational fashion, he replied with the following remark:

You're a bright enough guy. Can you think of a way of testing the truth or otherwise of the idea that turning on the lights keeps the monsters away?

I thought it was rather amusing that this critic, on the one hand, says science (that is methodological naturalism) works and so doesn't need to be justified but, on the other hand, he immediately seeks a way to test my claim about lights keeping away the monsters. The fact that it seems to work isn't enough for him. It's a blatant case of special pleading. He doesn't see the need to justify his assumptions but asks me to provide evidence for mine.

Another funny thing about a natural-only approach to science is the circular nature of it. Many evolutionists have said the evidence does not support a super natural creation. In other words, if one starts with the assumption that every phenomenon has a natural explanation, then he will see that every phenomenon has a natural explanation.

This critic could see how pragmatism is a flawed test for discerning truth. The sad reality is that he couldn't see the similarity between my example and his own worldview. Circular reasoning, special pleading, and a self-refuting premise – it's all there. Evolutionists always fail to disappoint. I expect bad arguments and they deliver bad arguments. It would be nice, though, if they could see how silly they're being just a little more often.

Sunday, March 11, 2012

David and Goliath Like You Haven't Seen It

I was turned on to the band, Apologetix, when Cowboy Bob posted one of their videos on his blog, Stormbringer's Thunder. I've since watched several of their videos on YouTube. Their schtick is to parody popular songs with Biblical lyrics. Here are some examples of their clever songs:

A parody of an Eagle's song that talks about Mary and Joseph being turned away at the inn: “The Hotel Can't Afford Ya.”

A parody of a Boston song that talks about the redeeming power of Jesus' sacrifice: “More than a Healing.”

A parody of a Simon and Garfunkle song that talks about the missionary works of Paul in the book of Acts: “The Sound of Silas.”

One video has been especially popular On YouTube. Many people have posted dramatizations of their parody of Queen's song, “The Bohemian Rhapsody” that talks about the shepherd boy, David, fighting the giant, Goliath. David, of course, was from Bethlehem and the song is “The Bethlehemian Rhapsody.”

All of the videos are a little campy but here's one that I found entertaining.


Enjoy!!

Friday, March 9, 2012

Marco Polo Describes a Dinosaur


The standard evolutionary argument is that dinosaurs are spearated from modern humans by a span of about 60 million years. If that were true, we could predict that no modern human has ever seen a dinosaur. Opponents of Christianity have even used this as a criticism of the Bible; you may have heard critics say something like, “If people and dinosaurs lived together, why doesn't the Bible mention dinosaurs?” The fact of the matter is the Bible does describe animals that resemble dinosaurs – though it doesn't use the word “dinosaur,” which is a term coined relatively recently. The Bible, for example, frequently uses the term, “dragons,” which some have proposed is a reference to dinosaurs.

Besides the Bible, other books of antiquity have made references to dragons. Pliny the Elder was a naturalist who wrote about many animals, most of which are rather mundane. However, in several places, he refers to “dragons” and describes them as enormous creatures who can actually fight (and usually kill) elephants! From Pliny's description of dragons though, I suspect he is actually describing very large snakes – perhaps as long as 120' in length (which is still very impressive).

There are many other historical references which I've read over the years. However, I came across still another account that was very interesting. It is from The Travels of Marco Polo the Venetian:

Leaving the city of Yacho, and travelling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of its chief city.... Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length, and ten spans in the girt of its body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a fourpenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring. The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal, can approach them without terror.

I was struck by the great care with which the author describes this creature: It is “10 paces in length” (30 feet) and “10 spans in the girt of the body” (about 7 feet thick, assuming a “span” is 8 inches). Though it doesn't say specifically that the creature has four legs, it does describe the forelimbs as being “short” and having “three claws.” When you throw in jaws “wide enough to swallow a man,” it sure sounds to me like a good description of a large, bipedal dinosaur.

Of course, others will reject my opinion. I would direct your attention to the editor's footnotes where he says, “This distorted account of an alligator or crocodile is less creditable to our author's fidelity than any other of his natural history descriptions.” In other words, “Polo is usually pretty good at describing animals but he really blew it when describing this alligator.” Maybe the account isn't distorted at all. Maybe it's a good description of a dinosaur. Given the fact that the animal is further described as lurking in caverns during the day, hunting terrestrial animals, and then having to go to the river to drink, it's certainly not a crocodile. It's also rather silly to suppose that Marco Polo, an ocean voyager and naturalist extraordinaire, wasn't familiar enough with crocodiles to describe them accurately.

Another interesting item gleaned from this account is how Polo describes the way these terrifying beasts were hunted.

By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep depression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with the sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible. When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed.

Another criticism often used against creation is that if men and dinos lived together, then dinosaurs would eat the people. That's a laugh. Humans are the top predators on the planet and I have said before that, when humans and dinos interact, it's the dinos who get killed. Here we seen another example of human cunning. A 30 foot long animal with sharp teeth and jaws big enough to swallow a man is still no match for human intelligence.

Now, in all fairness, if modern humans saw a dinosaur, it's not “proof” against evolution. Even if a living dinosaur were found today, it wouldn't necessarily disprove evolution. But it doesn't help it either. The world is what it is and theories are attempts to describe it. The Bible says land animals (which would include dinosaurs) and man are contemporaries. The theory of evolution says dinosaurs became extinct millions of years before humans appeared. When we have accounts that seem to describe dinosaurs and people living together, it comports much better with the Bible.