googlef87758e9b6df9bec.html A Sure Word: So tell me again how evolution could be falsified? Part 3

Friday, March 29, 2019

So tell me again how evolution could be falsified? Part 3

For any scientific theory to be valid, it must make predictions and be falsifiable. This isn't my rule, it belongs to the scientific community at large and the theory of evolution should be no exception to this rule. It's been my experience, though, that no discovery, no matter how contrary it is our understanding of evolution, seems to be enough to make evolutionists question the theory itself. I read articles with headlines like: “New discovery rewrites the history of human evolution.” Yet I suspect I'll never see an article titled something like, “New discovery casts doubt on the theory of evolution.” They have to admit to being wrong about where, when, and how things evolved but nothing – NOTHING – will ever make some people doubt that things are still evolved. It's very curious.

Out of frustration, creationists have often asked, “If evolution is a valid, scientific theory, what is a way it might be falsified?” Usually, we don't receive an answer beyond bluff and bluster, but they can't duck the question forever. Rational Wiki (RW) has an article titled, Falsifiability of evolution, where they list several ways the theory could be falsified. I examined the first three from their list in my last post and showed how they really weren't serious tests of the theory. I was going to address the next few items from list in this post but [SPOILER ALERT] it's more of the same. I even thought about abandoning this series because, after pointing out the weaknesses in the first 3 items on the list, the similar weaknesses in the other items become rather glaring. I'll touch on the items later but I thought it might be a good idea to back up a minute and address the premise RW used when making these “predictions.”

From the RW article, we read, “[I]t is best to be clear what evolution is. It is based on three main principles: variation, heritability and selection. Given these three principles, evolution must occur, and many features of evolution appear given only these three guiding principles. If any of these were shown to be flawed then the theory would be untenable. [italics in original]

I think it's admirable of RW to want to be “clear” about what evolution is because there seems to be a lot of equivocation over the word. The theory of evolution includes the common descent of all biodiversity from a single ancestor. Evolution also includes fish becoming frogs, dinosaurs becoming birds, and ape becoming men. “Evolution” includes a lot of things that are in contention but RW claims it wants to be “clear.” //RKBentley rolls his eyes//

Let's take those three principles and apply them to a hypothetical population of black and gray mice. In one particular environment, gray might be a better camouflage than black so predators will tend to eat the black mice more often than the gray. The gray mice, then, will tend to live longer and have more offspring and the black mice will leave less offspring. Over time, the entire population of mice will become mostly gray or totally gray. We can see all three of RW's principles in action. Are you with me so far?

What has happened to the mice fits the technical definition of evolution. It is a change in the frequency of the gray allele in the population. There is no debate over this type of change and if people want to call it “evolution” then you could call me an evolutionist. But how does this type of change show that all life has descended from a common ancestor? How can this type of change add feathers to a dinosaur? It doesn't!

What RW has done is described natural selection and called it evolution. They are taking something we do observe (natural selection) and using it as evidence for something we don't observe (evolution). Therefore, the first six items they present are actually things that might potentially falsify natural selection – not evolution. The problem with this, though, is that natural selection is an observed phenomenon. We watch it happen all the time. You can imagine how difficult it would be to look at something, then try to prove the thing you're looking at doesn't exist. You really can't and that's the challenge RW faces in disproving natural selection. As I said in my last post, RW has resorted to taking things that are already known to occur and saying, “If this didn't occur, evolution wouldn't be possible.” That's sort of like saying, “If a bowling ball weren't round, it wouldn't roll.”

So, having said all that, let's look at 2 of the next 3 items from RW's list:

[A]ny of the following would destroy the theory [of evolution]...

If it could be shown that selection or environmental pressures do not favor the reproductive success of better adapted individuals.

If it could be shown that even though selection or environmental pressures favor the reproductive success of better adapted individuals, "better adapted individuals" (at any one time) are not shown to change into other species.

Notice how they even use the word, “selection” in their tests? So if “natural selection” didn't favor the better adapted, evolution wouldn't be possible. If rearrangements of already existing traits didn't produce new species, evolution wouldn't be possible. Since they're conflating natural selection with evolution, RW is essentially saying, “If evolution didn't happen, it wouldn't happen.” And if a bowling ball weren't round, it wouldn't be a ball.

Darwin saw the similarities between different species of finches and realized little changes in the environment would favor certain traits. Over time, the more favored traits would become the most common traits in the population and a species would be better adapted to its environment. Over a really long time, the accumulation of small changes could become big changes – like a leg becoming a wing. That's the theory of evolution. Darwin used the little changes he observed to invent his theory. Now, RW is claiming that these observed, little changes are “predictions” of the theory. It's all incredibly circular.

Having said all that, RW did make one claim that is interesting. They said, [It would destroy evolution...]

If it could be shown that although mutations are passed down, no mutation could produce the sort of phenotypic changes that drive natural selection.

We've already discussed how mutations are already known to occur in the DNA of any organism. Also, we already know mutations are inherited by its offspring so neither of these could really be said could potentially falsify evolution. However, RW is saying mutations must produce the kinds of changes that drive evolution. Actually, they said, drive natural selection but I've already discussed how they conflate the terms.

Mutations are sometimes “expressed” - that is, they have some, physical affect on the host organism. A beetle might be born without wings; a fish might be born without eyes; an elephant might be born without tusks; etc. We sometimes call these types of expressed mutations, “birth defects.”

In some environments, these types of birth defects may give an organism an advantage. On a windy island, for example, flying beetles have a chance of being blown out to sea so a beetle born without wings may have a better chance of surviving. Natural Selection is the blind judge that determines if a birth defect conveys any advantage and if wingless beetles replace all the flying beetles on the island, some people will say that species has “evolved.”

The problem with this scenario is that beetles being born without wings doesn't explain how wings on beetles evolved in the first place. I've said before that you can't make a molehill into a mountain by removing dirt so beetles loosing their wings doesn't make a very good case for evolution. For evolution to be possible, populations must acquire novel traits. To turn a reptile into a mammal, for example, you would have to add hair. The alleged first living organism didn't have hair – nor scales nor skin nor bones nor blood. To turn a microbe into a man, it would require a billion successive generations of organisms acquiring traits they've never had before.

It's not enough to observe beneficial mutations and call it evolution. If the theory of common descent were true, trait-adding mutations would have to happen fairly regularly. We should have plenty of examples. So where are they? I ask in earnest because, in all the years I've been asking evolutionists, I only ever hear the same 3 or 4 questionable examples. Why? It's because trait-adding mutations are astonishingly scare or non-existent.

The glaring lack of examples of trait-adding mutations, which are virtually demanded by the theory, is strong evidence against the theory. It's a nice try of RW to claim natural selection acting on mutations is evidence for the theory but, on this point, I'm going to have to give evolution a big fail.

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3 comments:

Steven J. said...

If the theory of common descent were true, trait-adding mutations would have to happen fairly regularly.

This is true.

Is "regularly" intended here as a synonym of "frequently" (since they are not normally synonyms)? For that matter, how frequently would "frequently" be? Humans don't have a single organ or structure that is not present in chimpanzees (strikingly different forms of those organs and structures, in some cases, but not really anything that isn't a modification of something found in other catarrhine primates). We have very little that doesn't have a direct counterpart in mice: no new limbs, no new sense organs, nerves, etc. What would that work out to? A "true, trait-adding mutation" in our lineage every ten million years?

Okay, more than that, since some would not survive natural selection (or just random chance), but there's no reason to expect them on a weekly basis, or even a once-per-lifetime basis.

Even a "trait-adding mutation" might not be obvious if you actually observed it. Richard Prum's work on feather evolution suggests that the "trait-adding mutation" that gave rise to feathers would have been thickened, conical scales. Would this look like a complete novelty or just an interesting variation in existing features? Or consider the hairy frog,Trichobatrachus robustus, whose hair-like papillae (not true hair, but similar in appearance) are extreme versions of skin features of other frogs. Are they an "added trait?" And again, there are millions of species and billions of individuals, but how many of them are under constant, careful observation? Would you notice a squirrel with a "new, trait-adding mutation," or mark it out from other squirrels?

Given the timescales of metazoan evolution (due to breeding cycles stretched out over months or years rather than hours or days), "trait-adding mutations" are most easily observed in single-celled organisms (which admittedly is less impressive than, say, a lizard egg hatching into a bird, which on the other hand is not something evolutionary theory predicts). Gene duplication plus mutation of one copy of the gene gave rise to bacteria that can break down nylon into components that can be used as food. A paper by Joakim Näsvall et al. in Science ("Real-Time Evolution of New Genes by Innovation, Amplification, and Divergence" Oct. 2012, pp. 384-387) gives more detail on this process amid a discussion of some observed incidents.

On the other hand, sometimes when novel (at least for that group) features appear, it's not known what actual genetic changes underlie them. When Italian wall lizards stranded on the island of Pod Mrcaru evolved cecal valves in their guts, that presumably arose from some mutation (whether "trait-adding" or not -- such valves were not previously known in wall lizards, but occur in other lizard groups), but no one knows which one it was.

Steven J. said...

As I said in my last post, RW has resorted to taking things that are already known to occur and saying, “If this didn't occur, evolution wouldn't be possible.” That's sort of like saying, “If a bowling ball weren't round, it wouldn't roll.”

And as I pointed out in my last response, many of these things (e.g. the occurrence of mutations) were not known when the theory was proposed. You seem to be arguing that a prediction ceases to be a valid prediction the more potential falsifications it survives. Every successful prediction becomes one more reason to dismiss the theory as meaningless nonsense. That's ... not obviously reasonable.

What would it take, at this point, to falsify the existence of atoms? Or, if you wish to stick to "historical science," what would it take to falsify the existence of the Roman Empire?

What RW has done is described natural selection and called it evolution.

Strictly speaking, they are arguing that natural selection can produce evolution -- the mechanism itself is testable (note, again, that Popper had originally questioned whether it was).

You can imagine how difficult it would be to look at something, then try to prove the thing you're looking at doesn't exist.

Off the top of my head, I can think of texts from the 1950s stating (based on observations) that humans had 24 pairs of chromosomes (counting chromosomes was hard with the techniques of the time, and the count was off a bit), eyewitness reports of the sun dancing in the sky at Fatima in 1917 (except it wasn't observed nearly widely enough if the sun had really moved), and more observations of bigfoot than you could shake a stick at. All sorts of things have been seen and then, later, shown not to be compatible with many other things that had been seen by more people.

RKBentley said...

Steven J,

You asked, “This is true. Is "regularly" intended here as a synonym of "frequently" (since they are not normally synonyms)? For that matter, how frequently would "frequently" be?”

No, not frequently. But you're right, “frequently” is vague also. How long would it take a scale to turn into an asymetrical feather, suitable for flying? How many steps would that be? It's rather hard to judge since we don't really see this type of change happening. But can you see that you're painting yourself into a corner? RW is saying that it would disprove evolution if no mutation could produce the sort of changes that drive evolution. You're saying that the changes are staggeringly slow and we probably wouldn't see one in our life time and likely wouldn't even recognize it if we did. So how can I use this as a test of the theory?

If this is a prediction of the theory then I would like to see examples of trait-adding mutations. If you have none, then I suggest that's strong evidence against your theory just as RW said it is.

You said, “And as I pointed out in my last response, many of these things (e.g. the occurrence of mutations) were not known when the theory was proposed.”

As I've said many times, the term evolution is applied to ANY change in a population so “evolution” can happen even without mutations but never mind that now. The key to Darwin's theory is time and change. He believed the little changes we can observe in animal populations, could lead to big changes over long enough periods of time. He proposed there may be a type of “inheritance particle” which he called, “gemmules,” that is the mechanism of change. Of course, we've never discovered any such thing. We have discovered DNA and we've seen how mutations can occur in the DNA molecule. It's been speculated that mutations can produce the raw material necessary for evolution to occur. However, as I've already said, it hasn't been demonstrated. So, essentially, Darwin predicted there is something in the creature that can be inherited which, over a long period of time, could change a fish into a frog. You're saying that's mutations but, to date, we really haven't determined that it's possible.

Thanks for your comments. God bless!!

RKBentley