In
order to bolster the claim that evolution is a valid scientific
theory, Rational
Wiki (RW) posted an article suggesting several ways evolution
might be falsified. In a series of posts, I've already dealt with
the first 6 items on their lists and saw they were rather ridiculous
sounding. They were only slightly more substantive than saying,
“Evolution would be disproved if it could be shown that animals
don't reproduce.” The last two items, however, are serious
tests of the theory. Perhaps it's not a coincidence that these were
made by someone other than RW. This last post in this series will
deal with both of them but it's going to be a longer post than usual.
Let's get right to it:
Charles
Darwin made the case a little differently when he said, "If it
could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not
possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight
modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find
out no such case."
Evolution
is sometimes described as “descent with modification.” A wing is
a modified leg – leg is a modified fin – and so on and so on
backward. Darwin understood that if some structure were ever
discovered that could not have possibly been formed by this series of
successive modifications, it would utterly disprove his theory. I
agree. Keep in mind, this isn't my test. It isn't RW's test. It
isn't any creationist's test. This is Darwin's test. So if
we ever found such a structure, Darwin himself believed it would
“absolutely break down” his
theory.
Michael
Behe is a biochemist who invented the term, “irreducible
complexity.” In his own words it means, “a
single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts
that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one
of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning.”
To illustrate this, he used the example of a mousetrap. A mousetrap
has very few working parts. However, if any part is missing, the
entire trap becomes useless. Since all of the parts have to be
present before a mousetrap has any function, Behe believed the
mousetrap was a good analogy of the type of structure Darwin meant.
In
his research as a biochemist, Behe has examined the flagellum, a
whip-like structure which single-celled creatures use to move
themselves around. The flagellum is very complex and has several
working parts. Behe claims that the flagellum is irreducibly
complex. Since no single part of the flagellum would have any
function at all, Behe claims it could not have evolved in gradual
steps, since it would have no function until all of the parts were
together. Behe claims it qualifies as the type of structure Darwin
said would disprove his theory.
Proponents
of evolution have attacked Behe's arguments from a variety of angles.
From NewScientist,
we read the following:
The
best studied flagellum, of the E. coli bacterium, contains around 40
different kinds of proteins. Only 23 of these proteins, however, are
common to all the other bacterial flagella studied so far. Either a
“designer” created thousands of variants on the flagellum or,
contrary to creationist claims, it is possible to make considerable
changes to the machinery without mucking it up. What’s more, of
these 23 proteins, it turns out that just two are unique to flagella.
The others all closely resemble proteins that carry out other
functions in the cell. This means that the vast majority of the
components needed to make a flagellum might already have been present
in bacteria before this structure appeared.
Now,
this may be a fair criticism of Behe's claims. People on both sides
of the debate could argue their points – which is how science is
supposed to work. However, in their zeal to protect their theory,
NewScientist overplays its hand and reveals the true attitude of the
folks on their side. They will never accept that any structure is
irreducibly complex. I direct your attention to the last few
paragraphs of the article (bold added):
… [T]he
fact that today’s biologists cannot provide a definitive account of
how every single structure or organism evolved proves nothing
about design versus evolution. Biology is still in its infancy,
and even when our understanding of life and its history is far more
complete, our ability to reconstruct what happened billions of years
ago will still be limited. Think of a stone archway: hundreds of
years after the event, how do you prove how it was built? It might
not be possible to prove that the builders used wooden scaffolding to
support the arch when it was built, but this does not mean they
levitated the stone blocks into place. In such cases Orgel’s Second
Rule should be kept in mind: “Evolution is cleverer than you are.”
In
other words, no structure, no matter how complex, no matter how many
parts have to be present before the structure works, and no matter
that none of the parts could serve in any other function that we can
determine, will ever serve to satisfy this test of the theory. Even
if we cannot imagine how some structure evolved, it has no bearing on
whether it evolved because “evolution” found a way we can't think
of. So, while Darwin and I think this would be a way to potentially
falsify his theory, it's more of an exercise in futility because
evolutionists can resort to “we just don't know how it happened.”
They always have; they always will.
J.B.S.
Haldane famously stated that "fossil rabbits in the Precambrian"
would disprove evolution - and this has been a talking point in
philosophy of science for some time.
The
Cambrian Period is a geological era believed by scientists to have
occurred around 540 million years ago. Cambrian strata is remarkable
for its abundance of diverse fossils whereas, strata below the
Cambrian - aka “Precambrian” - are largely empty of fossils. The
sudden appearance of fossils representing so many diverse animal
phyla is so startling, many people have used the term “Cambrian
explosion” to describe it.
According
to evolutionary theory, life began as “simple,” single-celled
creatures which gradually became more complex over millions of years.
Rock layers are also laid down gradually, over millions of years,
and so the fossils found in each rock layer create a sort of snap
shot of life on earth at the time the layer was laid down. The
earliest and “simplest” life forms should be lower down in the
geological column. The more recent and more evolved life formed
should be higher up. Precambrian rocks, therefore, should only have
fossils of the earliest and simplest creatures.
When
asked what might falsify evolution, a British-Indian scientist, named
J.B.S. Haldane, famously quipped, “rabbits in the Precambrian.”
His point was that, since rabbits are believed to have evolved
relatively recently, finding rabbit fossils with the earliest life
forms would be problematic for the theory. Richard Dawkins echoed a
similar sentiment when he said, “Evolution
could so easily be disproved if just a single fossil turned up in the
wrong date order”
(lie
#1 from my list of lies evolutionists tell).
I
agree that such a discovery would be extremely damaging to the theory
of evolution. However, it's somewhat unlikely that such a discovery
will be made. I believe the sequence of fossils better indicates
where a
creature lived/died rather than when.
Think about it. If a deluge of water and mud suddenly buried
everything, here's what I think we'd find: bottom dwelling marine
animals would be buried first, then swimming animals, then amphibious
animals, then reptiles and birds and mammals at the top. Well, that
is sort of what we find. I say “sort of” because even
terrestrial fossils are always found in layers with marine animals.
I would not expect to find rabbits being buried with creatures at the
bottom of the ocean.
Even
though it's not probable that the Flood would bury rabbits with
trilobites, it's not entirely impossible and so, once again, I think
this is a fair test of the theory. Of course, it doesn't just apply
to rabbits; any, grossly “out of order” fossils should be
evidence against evolution. Dawkins said even “a
single fossil” could
disprove the theory if it “turned
up in the wrong date order.”
Unfortunately, he doesn't mean it. We routinely find fossils in
places we didn't think they'd be. Just do a google search on the
term, “fossil rethink evolution” and you'll find plenty of
examples. So even though there have been thousands of out-of-order
fossils found over the past few decades, I haven't seen any headline
that say any one of them have disproved evolution.
Saying
out of order fossils would disprove evolution, when so many have
already been found, shows this isn't a serious test but it mere
posturing. Even RW, in the same paragraph, hedges its bet just in
case something like a Precambrian rabbit is every found. From the
article we read this:
“The
simple truth is that a single strange fossil would probably not make
much difference. In practice, the evidence in the fossil record which
supports evolution is so overwhelming that a single fossil would be
regarded as curious certainly, but compared to the mountain of
evidence in favor of evolution it would probably be regarded as an
anomaly while more data was awaited... However, the existence of
entire groups of anomalous fossils would be a different thing —
Haldane did say rabbits after
all. Again, in practice an effort would initially be made to fit the
new data into the existing framework — this is not cheating but
simply the way science works. But still, in principle some quite
major revisions to the theory may be needed to explain them. Such a
situation would not immediately
and conclusively prove a special creation over a naturalistic
evolution.”
So...
what are you saying, RW? That not even rabbits
in the Precambrian would conclusive disprove evolution? Yeah, that's
what I thought you were saying.
If
you googled the phrase, “new discovery rewrites evolution,” you
would find a mile long list of articles describing times researchers
have found some new thing that causes them to completely change how
they understood some part of evolution. Yet even though they were
shown to be so wrong about something they thought they knew about
evolution, no discovery causes mainstream science to ever question
the theory itself. It's always more like, “We didn't understand
how this thing evolved,” rather than “Now we're not sure if
evolution happened at all.”
Since
failed predictions are usually considered evidence against a theory,
frustrated creationists have asked what type of discovery it would
take to falsify evolution. Any scientific theory should be
predictive and falsifiable but the theory of evolution seems
unaffected by any amount of contrary evidence.
There
you have it, folks. RW's entire list of possible ways evolution
might be falsified is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. There is
nothing predictive or falsifiable about evolution. It is a worthless
theory and not relevant to any other field of science. It is propped
up only by psuedo-science and the willingness of sinful, rebellious
people to believe a lie. I know that no amount of evidence will
persuade them. At the very least, I hope the realization that what
they believe is nothing more than a blind faith might soften their
stubbornness.
Read
the entire series:
In other words, no structure, no matter how complex, no matter how many parts have to be present before the structure works, and no matter that none of the parts could serve in any other function that we can determine, will ever serve to satisfy this test of the theory.
ReplyDeleteComplexity, by itself, is not an argument for design. Indeed, as William Paley noted, an omnipotent Creator has no obvious reason to resort to complex designs: humans make things complicated because we know no way to make a simpler thing perform a task, but omnipotence could bestow sentience, motility, senses, and the ability to manipulate objects on a mud puddle or a rock. "Specified complexity" (what Paley called "contrivance") is always, in our experience, a mark of a constrained, finite designer.
Behe's original argument for "irreducible complexity" deliberately ignored the possibility of components having other functions; he apparently assumed that a molecular structure must serve the same functions throughout its existence, and so must all its components. You don't need all the parts if a precursor structure has some different function (at the Kitzmiller trial in Dover, Ken Miller twitted Michael Behe by wearing the spring portion of a mousetrap, minus the board and the holding bar, as a tie clip).
Our inability to think of another function for a molecule is, indeed, a demonstration of our limits, not the molecule's, but again, Behe's argument deliberately ignores the possibility of a mutation modifying a protein so that it does something different, rather than just mutations (presumably through gene duplication and subsequent mutation of the duplicate gene) that just add new proteins. Several components of the bacterial flagellum, for example, do have other functions in the cell (as do, e.g. the opsins in our eyes).
Intelligent Design proponents are making a positive claim, here: that they know that mutation and natural selection cannot produce certain structures. The burden of proof is reasonably on them to demonstrate this, not simply to elicit admissions that "we don't know everything" from evolutionists. They're specifically claiming that they're not advancing a "god of the gaps" argument, so it's not useful for them to whine about gaps.
His point was that, since rabbits are believed to have evolved relatively recently, finding rabbit fossils with the earliest life forms would be problematic for the theory.
ReplyDeleteHis point was that rabbits are placental mammals. Finding them earlier in the fossil record than any mammal, or earlier than any synapsid, or earlier than any amniote, would contradict the entire rest of the fossil record. Frank Gee, in a contrarian mood, has argued that the entire fossil record might be wrong -- that given its incompleteness, we aren't justified in assuming that there weren't placental mammals in the Ediacaran -- but that's the equivalent of betting the rent money on the mega-millions lottery.
Anyway, it's not that rabbits themselves have evolved recently. The oldest known rabbit-like fossils date from the Eocene, at a bit more than fifty million years ago. Finding one twenty million years older would be surprising but not shocking; molecular dating implies that not only were placental mammals around back then, but the ancestors of rabbits had already separated from the ancestors of, say, you and me. Finding fossils of any placental mammal in the Jurassic would be shocking; that's about the time when the line leading to placental mammals separated from that leading to marsupials (near the juncture point is the early therian Juramaia.
Finding placental mammals earlier than the Jurassic would make us wonder where all the fossil mammals that should have been its ancestors and cousins were.
We routinely find fossils in places we didn't think they'd be. Just do a google search on the term, “fossil rethink evolution” and you'll find plenty of examples.
Sure. We find that particular lineages had survived longer than we had previously thought. Take modern coelacanths (though they're not fossils). Indeed, there are no fossils known of the modern coelacanth genus Latimeria; it's no more an "out of place" animal than its ancestors in the Cretaceous were, even though there were coelacanths (of different genera and species from the Cretaceous or modern ones) around in the Devonian more than three million centuries earlier.
Or we find that some particular group had evolved earlier than we thought (but not before its direct and collateral ancestors had existed). Finding that tetrapods with actual legs predated Tiktaalik doesn't mean that they predated lobe-finned fish as a group. Finding dolphins (or ichthyosaurs) earlier than Tiktaalik would be devastating, as nothing resembling a reptile, or even a basal amniote, had shown up in the fossil record yet.
Oh, and headlines tend to work on the clickbait principle; no one is going to write a story headlined "fossil forces scientists to slightly tweak conventional understanding," even though that would be the most honest way to headline most of these stories.
If a deluge of water and mud suddenly buried everything, here's what I think we'd find: bottom dwelling marine animals would be buried first, then swimming animals, then amphibious animals, then reptiles and birds and mammals at the top. Well, that is sort of what we find. I say “sort of” because even terrestrial fossils are always found in layers with marine animals. I would not expect to find rabbits being buried with creatures at the bottom of the ocean.
ReplyDeleteThis is the "differential mobility" explanation of the geological column, or, as I like to call it, the "grass runs faster than Allosaurus" explanation.
You do understand that "Precambrian rabbit" is a metonymy? It applies equally to "Precambrian catfish." Or, for that matter, to "Mesozoic dolphin." Whales, in the modern world, occupy a variety of niches and watery environments, from river dolphins to baleen whales. It appears the same was true of ichthyosaurs, and plesiosaurs, and mososaurs. So why do we find the last three together, but never with cetaceans? If modern placental mammals and dinosaurs lived at the same time, and mammals, again, occupy niches in well-nigh every environment on Earth, why don't we find bear fossils alongside dromeosaurs, or elephants alongside sauropods, or at least some modern large mammals along non-bird dinosaurs?
There are bottom-dwelling fish living in ecologies today, but there's a distinct paucity of Cambrian flounders. The Mesozoic isn't just an "age of reptiles;" it's equally an "age of fish," an "age of insects," even "an age of rather homely, ungainly primitive mammals." It has its own bottom-dwelling marine life, its own amphibians, etc., and they aren't identical to those of different periods and eras.
Steven J,
ReplyDeleteConcerning Darwin's, Behe's, and RW's claim that structures which could not have evolved in gradual increments would disprove the entire theory, I agreed this was a fair test. You seem to agree too. However, you ignored my point that it is virtually impossible to actually apply this test to any structure. The last resort of evolutionists when confronted with this type of criticism is always to say what you've essentially said: “it happened – we just don't know how.” If you are always allowed to say the parts of an irreducibly complex structure were all simultaneously commandeered from other systems without presenting any plausible pathway of how such a thing might have happened, then of what use is this test?
To the next point, I agree with you that some headlines exaggerate the significance of a find in order to put a little sizzle on the steak. However, that certainly can't be said of every fossil discovery unless you believe that no sensational find has been made in the last 50 years or so. A 1995 NY Times article, for example, says ants were once thought to have exploded on the scene about 50 million years ago but a (then) new find showed they were already around with the dinosaurs about 90 million years ago. Today, Wiki says ants evolved from wasp-like creatures about 140 million years ago. So if pushing the age of ants back 3 fold is “tweaking” the theory, what happens when some other find puts it at 200 million years? Does it have to be pushed back all the way to the Precambrian before it's considered a real problem for the theory? But it doesn't matter if that ever happens because I remind you that, even though RW said this is a test of evolution, at the end of the day, they said it really isn't. In their own words, they said, “Again, in practice an effort would initially be made to fit the new data into the existing framework — this is not cheating but simply the way science works. But still, in principle some quite major revisions to the theory may be needed to explain them. Such a situation would NOT immediately and conclusively prove a special creation over a naturalistic evolution.”
Ants, rabbits, or any other grossly out of order fossil found in the Precambrian would at first try to be worked into the theory. If that fails, it will probably be disregarded as an anomaly. That's not my opinion.
Thanks for your comments. God bless!!
RKBentley