I've
mentioned before that I sometimes post on Yahoo! Answers. Many of
the questions asked there are on topics that I've already written
about on my blog so I usually just copy what I've already written
here and paste it there. I then paste a link to my blog so that
people might visit if they want to read more. Anyway, one Yahoo!
poster (who posts only under the name “Richard” with no avatar)
asked the following question:
Why
do creationists say there's no evidence for evolution? Is it possible
they don't know what they're talking about?
He
then cited 4 books he's read about evolution (Wow! Four
books!) and concluded his question with this remark:
Countless
dozens of evidences for evolution in each book with virtually no
overlap. But still creationists say there's no evidence for
evolution. Why do they say this even though they're completely wrong?
On
my blog, I've written many times about the nature of evidence. I've
explained many times that evidence is neutral and isn't “for” any
theory but, instead, theories seek to explain the evidence. I had
many posts that I could have used to respond to his question but I
chose my post, “Evidence
for the Tooth Fairy.”
You
might visit that post and read it but here's the point I was making: a “Tooth Fairy”
might seem to explain all the evidence (the missing tooth, the money
under the pillow, etc) but it's still not true. Likewise, the theory
of evolution might seem to explain some of the evidence reasonably
well but that still isn't “proof” the theory is true.
Richard
did not like my answer and posted this comment:
You
just compared DNA sequencing and the other powerful evidences for
evolution to evidence for the tooth fairy fantasy. Do you have any
idea how f*cking stupid that is? Grow up you bloody moron.
Hmmm.
Not a very thoughtful rebuttal, wouldn't you agree? As always, I
remained calm and tried to respond with substance. I said to
Richard:
Do
you not understand the concept of analogy? I gave you an obvious
example of how "evidence" can support an obviously false
theory (like the tooth fairy) in order to demonstrate how theories
can seem to explain the evidence yet still be wrong.
It
was here that Richard completely blew a gasket. His responded with
two more comments:
You
compared the tooth fairy fantasy to the strongest fact of science.
Take your complaints and your supernatural magic to the world's
biologists. You disgust me. Drop dead.
"God
made the world as described in Genesis." BULLSH!T. Where's your
f*cking evidence? What kind of magic wand did your fairy use? You
reject science supported by tons of evidence and instead invoke your
Magic Man which has zero evidence. Obviously you're a f*cking idiot.
Grow up or shut up tard boy
I
got a little chuckle from Richard's rant. I was going to respond
again but found that he had blocked me so I couldn't. Discussion and
reason are the enemies of liberalism. Unfortunately for him, he
can't block me from posting his rant on my blog. I was going to say
something like, “You're obviously a very enlightened thinker.
Do you persuade a lot of people with arguments like this? 'Grow up
or shut up tard boy.' Brilliant!” The funniest thing is that I
suspect Richard is probably 12-13 years old judging by how impressive
he thinks having read 4 books is, yet he tells me to grow up.
So
why am I posting this here? One reason is because I really did get a
chuckle from it and thought maybe some of my readers would also. But
beyond that, I wanted to show readers the kind of response I often
get from militant evolutionists. Certainly, I wouldn't say this is
representative of all evolutionists, but Richard has resorted to many
of the same arguments I've heard and wrote about many times before.
You could say that his is a typical rant.
Besides
the scarcely censored profanity (Richard himself had typed it that way, obviously to hide his foul language from Yahoo! Answers) let me spend a few
moments pointing out a few of his logical failings.
First,
we see the oft use argumentum
verbosium or “argument by verbosity,” sometimes called
“elephant hurling.” This is where a person throws out lists of
terms or lays claim to “mountains of evidence” without ever
really making a specific argument. Richard has said there are
“countless dozens” [that's an odd term, don't you think?] of
evidences for evolution yet in all his rant, he fails to cite a
single one. He did say, “DNA sequencing” but that is a simply a
method of determining the order of nucleotides in a DNA molecule (per
Wiki).
It's not “evidence” for evolution. That would be like saying,
“digging” is evidence for evolution because that's how
paleontologists find fossils.
Did
you notice too how he said, evolution is “the
strongest fact of science.” I'm
not sure if I should include that in with his fallacy of elephant
hurling or count it as a separate fallacy. I'm not sure how to label
it, though. Some have identified “overstatement” as it's own
logical fallacy. If so, this would certainly qualify as such. "The strongest fact of science?" Tsk tsk.
Richard
also conflates “science” with all of evolution, a tactic I just
recently
had addressed. He used the term “science” instead of
“evolution” when he said, “You
reject science supported by tons of evidence.” I don't
reject science at all. Yet, as I've already said, if I reject
“evolution,” I'm accused of rejecting all of science as though
science and evolution are the same thing.
Do
I even need to point out the obvious use of ad
homenim? This is where a person attacks his opponent rather
than addressing his argument. I made a valid point, namely that
evidence can seem to support even a false theory. Richard never
addressed my point but, instead, merely called me names. Likewise,
should I mention the frequent use of loaded
words? Richard didn't make a case against creation; he merely
described it using unflattering terms like “magic” and calling
God a “fairy” and “Magic Man.”
I
could go on but I've gone on too long already. Let's wrap this up
with some life lessons. It's because of people like Richard and
Human Ape that I have to moderate my comments. Without it, my
comments would be filled with rants and profanities worse than
theirs. The simple presence of moderation causes most visitors to
reflect on what they will say before they write it. But it's also
because of people like Richard and Human Ape that I blog.
I want people to hear the truth. People as bitter as they are
usually hardened against the truth but I still want them to hear it.
Remember the parable of the sower (Matthew 13:3-7). The Sower didn't
just sow in the good earth, he sowed in the hard earth as well.
I
also want to encourage other Christians. You will encounter people
like this. Don't let them bully you. Don't let them shame you. Be
reminded of Jesus' instructions to His apostles: Behold,
I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as
serpents and innocent as doves
(Matthew 10:16).